After last week’s post about not talking to the police, a reader wrote us to ask about identifying yourself to a police officer. It’s not a simple yes or no answer, and, since we love fan-mail so much, we turned the answer into a post. Here’s to you, Mr. H.
Do you have to identify yourself to the police? It depends, and our pop quiz is a trick question.
The relevant Supreme Court cases are Terry v. Ohio and Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada. In Terry, the court said that law enforcement can stop a person and conduct a frisk if the officer has a reasonable suspicion (which is less than probable cause) that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person “may be armed and presently dangerous.” This may extend to asking you to identify yourself as it is a kind of investigation.
In Hiibel, the police were investigating a report of a possible crime. They approached Hiibel, who was parked in a car. Hiibel repeatedly refused to give his name, and was subsequently arrested. Nevada had a stop and identify law, which was used to convict him. The Supreme Court determined that these laws are constitutional, so long as they require officers to have reasonable and articulable suspicion of criminal involvement. However, if the person believes that providing their name would be incriminating, it’s possible that fifth amendment protections might still apply. But if police are not investigating and have no reasonable suspicion, then you do not have to give your name.
Further complicating matters is the question of whether or not you are operating a vehicle. Remember that driving is a privilege and not a right, thus the requirement to be licensed. So you have fewer protections when you are driving a car, and generally will have to give your license to an officer if you are pulled over on a traffic or other Terry stop.
If you’re still with me, here’s the next wrinkle: only about half of the states have stop and identify laws. You can find a list here. If you’re very concerned about this issue, it’s worth taking the time to look at the list and read the statutes for your jurisdiction. You may also want to consult with a lawyer licensed in your state, and visit Flex Your Rights and other ACLU police encounter resources. Two videos free on youtube.com, Busted and 10 Rules for Dealing With Police, are also invaluable educational tools.
What should you do if a law enforcement officer asks for your name? Well, keep in mind that law enforcement encounters can go badly for you very quickly, even when you are completely innocent. That’s why Professor Duane is so passionate about educating people to never speak to the police. In the interests of a more complete discussion, I should point out that there is an opposing school of thought that suggests that your best bet is to be cooperative in the hopes that a submissive demeanor and honest information will end the police encounter quickly and peaceably.
One way to handle an officer’s request for your name is to use the magic question, “Officer, am I free to go?” I call this the ‘magic question’ because the moment you utter it, the officer has to make some decisions. If the officer thinks they have enough for a Terry stop, they can say no. If not, they are legally required to let you go. Of course, it doesn’t always work that way. If the officer won’t answer you (they commonly respond with another question or a non-answer) you can get more specific. If there’s any chance you are not free to go, you need to utter the second magic question asap: “I do not consent to any searches.”
I once had a police encounter in which I was unclear as to whether I was free to go. I repeated the question several times, and she would not answer me. I finally said, perhaps unwisely, “Okay, you haven’t said you are detaining me so I’m going to walk away now.” At that point, she said that I was not free to go. The next thing I said was surely stupid, as it’s important to be calm and polite with police, but I nevertheless replied, “I hope you have reasonable suspicion.”
While I had done nothing wrong and had nothing to hide, I feel strongly that law enforcement officers should respect my Fourth Amendment rights without me consenting to searches or providing identification. She let me go within seconds after that exchange, and I think she realized that I was informed enough about my rights that it could turn into trouble for her. Oh, and the fact that I was taking pictures and video might have played a role. Too bad that camera died, or I would share them here.
My heart was pounding the whole time. Police encounters are far more stressful than you can imagine, even when you have worked within the system for years.
Has anything like this ever happened to you?


inmyinternest
April 17, 2012
This is very interesting, and a bit disturbing. Why are police encounters such a heart-bounding experience for innocent people? I’ve never had a police encounter in the USA so I wouldn’t know, but in Finland police officers are extremely nice and polite. All the encounters I’ve had with the Finnish police have been nothing but reassuring!
the secret keeper
April 21, 2012
I have never been treated badly by the police but I still cringe inside whenever I see a police car. I know I am not breaking any laws but I still feel as though I am doing something wrong. I’ve had several encounters with the police from speeding tickets to going through an arrest procedure where charges were eventually expunged from my record but they got their finger prints and a mug shot. When I would be stoned or high on another drug I always felt when in the presence of the police that somehow they would know I was high and that would get me into some major trouble. After a severe traffic accident, I got rid of the alcohol in my car but I forgot about the pot in my glove compartment. The police approached me at the hospital ER and told me if I did not pursue the man who smashed into my car they would forget about finding the marijuana. Now why would they do that? It seems the man who hit me was a gun runner (quite drunk at the time of the accident) and the police did not want me to cause a problem in their investigations. I do not like to have contact with the police but they always seem to find me. Now they seem to be getting worse in their treatment of innocent people i.e. the occupy movement; the pepper spray; arresting people who are peacefully demonstrating & handling them in a violent and disrespectful way totally negating their rights to protest. I feel the police feel above the law and that they have the right to intimidate. So, I do not trust anything that they might do. Even when being submissive it doesn’t seem to make much of a difference in how they lord over you their position in society. I would be extremely nervous about not giving the police my name if asked even if as your post states that I do have the right under certain circumstances.
inmyinternest
April 22, 2012
That sounds scary. Of course, I’ve never been suspected of anything… but still, it seems to me that the Finnish police is avuncular rather than scary! They really are there to serve, not to harass people. They even use the term “client” when referring to criminals!
the secret keeper
April 22, 2012
That would be nice if the police were like they were in Finland. In the US they just seem to need an attitude adjustment. Using the word “client” seems a more appropriate way to treat the citizens who pay their salaries through taxes. I think the police forget that they are suppose to serve its citizens not frighten the hell out of them. If you re from a minority then they don’t even feel they need a reason to harrass you. “Driving while black” is a common phrase in our country. Also, “walking while black” means you are not safe. You are stopped for no reason. I think the Finnish police could teach the US police some manners.
inmyinternest
April 24, 2012
That’s horrible… but I’m sure the Finnish police isn’t perfect either. There are some individual policemen and women who are racist. (But I should think they have to be careful to not to let it show in the way they go about their work, or there would be a huge shit storm!)
And then, Finnish people tend to have positive attitudes towards dealing with the police. Actually, they’ll be thrilled if they can help the police! So maybe it’s easy for the police to be nice and polite when people are practically stumbling over each other to co-operate? It probably a more complex issue than that, with all kinds of political and cultural factors to consider, but perhaps the general positive attitude towards the police is part of the dynamics?
CrimeCents
April 25, 2012
Thanks for stopping by, inmyinternest and thesecretkeeper. These cross country comparisons are interesting as our cultures are obviously different. While there will always be problematic officers in any police force, it sounds like Finland has a much more respectful law enforcement culture. I’ve had plenty of positive interactions with police, but the problem is that when an officer decides to give you a hard time, it gets pretty bad pretty fast. And officers generally regard the public as being potentially problematic, and “criminals” as something less than human. That doesn’t make for a good working relationship.
inmyinternest
April 25, 2012
I can’t imagine a police officer giving me a hard time! They’re always ridiculously polite! I might have different views if I was a criminal who had had unpleasant encounters with the police but I really don’t think the Finnish police see the public as problematic or suspicious. If the police have that attitude, that’s a problem right there.
Of course, I can see how working as a police officer could turn a person into a cynic… but if the whole institution functions on the principle that everyone is suspicious, no wonder if normal people dread the police.
Stephanie Walker
April 26, 2012
Thanks for this informative post! The last time I was pulled over for speeding, it was many years ago, but I am pretty sure the officer asked for my license and proof of insurance and asked me to stay in my car without telling me why he pulled me over. It was only after he had done whatever he did in his car–check if I had outstanding warrants, I guess–that he came back and told me why he pulled me over. What are officers’ obligations in traffic stops? And what are mine?
Stephanie Walker
April 26, 2012
P.S. Thanks for the Stop & Identify link. It didn’t offer much clarity specific to Texas, though.
claudiagrant
May 25, 2012
This post made me sad. Policing is an issue I’ve written on before, and should be writing on right this second (oh go away and die essay). The ideal is certainly not the people versus the police. I have a positive view of police in Australia, when stopped by police I’ve never had a worry or been afraid. I understand as a middle class white law abiding female that may not be surprising, but on the whole this is a pretty depressing view of police-citizen relations. In certain sectors of the community in Australia (certain migrant groups) people do feel they need to be educated on how to deal with police as a risk to them but on the whole most people here don’t seem to feel they have anything to fear from the police. I’ve travelled in America a few times and took my positive police view with me, perhaps lucky for me I never had an encounter with any American police.
eideard
August 7, 2012
Chicago, Illinois; New Haven, Bridgeport, Norwalk and Hartford, Connecticut; NYC, NY – especially interesting for confrontation with CIA agent. Turns out like immigration cops worldwide, they can’t be required to provide ID, like badge#, etc.; Detroit, MI, Albuquerque, NM; Glasgow, Scotland; Paris, Annecy, France; Warsaw, Zakopane, Poland…
If you’re at all active in movements for civil rights, peace – you always check out local laws like this.
Just Curious
April 24, 2013
I was in my front yard and a cop walked up to my friend and I and started asking us questions if we knew anything about the robbery that happened two houses down we told him we didn’t see anything and a little while after he asked us for our names and I was just wondering if we had to tell him any of our personal information because I don’t want to give a cop my information if I don’t have to.
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Coolie
May 22, 2013
There can be major problems from Police Officer’s attitude, believing to have “more power” and always being right. I experienced a major problem from Police Officers in the past. I was with a friend getting food from a lunch truck (approx. 15 other people around). A fight occurred between two strangers. The Police came and one certain officer yelled at everyone to leave. I was just eating my food and my friend was still waiting for her food. The Officer with attitude yelled at everyone to leave if they’re not getting food. The Officer told me to leave and I replied that I’m leaving with my friend who is waiting for her food. He replies, “You leave and she’ll catch up to you”. I did not want to leave her by herself, especially after a fight happening. I went to the Sargent and asked if I can leave with my friend, that she’s still waiting for her food. I got permission. While I was walking back towards her, my arm get grabbed behind my back, I yanked it back since it was unexpected. I turn around, then the “attitude” Officer pushes me hard against the lunch truck, I don’t know what’s happening, the next I know is that I’m laying on the ground with police holding me down. I hear, “Tazer! You’re going to get tazered!” Then I got zapped in the back. I was being brought to police car walking by the Sargent and I yell about him giving me permission and he replies, “I thought she was getting her food”, then I reply “she was”. With that case, it was stated that I would not give my other hand, so that’s why I was tazered. That does not make sense since there were three officers on me. One was holding my hand down to the ground in front of my face. The officers were probably bored.