Even vegetarians who don’t own televisions and live on Mars are, by now, aware of the Chick-fil-A brouhaha. Dan Cathy, CEO of Chick-fil-A, made public, anti-gay statements. And then it turned out that Chick-fil-A funnels buckets of money to anti-gay organizations.
The fight since then is about two things: gay rights and free speech.
Let’s get the first one out of the way. Gay rights? Yep, I support them. Wholeheartedly. As someone who believes that we all have a duty to respect and care for our fellow human beings, regardless of sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, religion, sex, political views, or dog vs. cat pet ownership status.
Now, free speech.
Yeesh. The public discourse on the issue has done a fabulous job of highlighting just how uneducated we are when it comes to free speech issues. So let’s set the record straight (oh, pardon the pun, dear reader!) on what’s going on with Chick-fil-A and speech.
First, the text of the First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
It’s helpful to think about the term, freedom of speech, and ask yourself, “freedom from what?” The answer is Congress. Or, more broadly, the government as the Supreme Court has made it clear that first amendment protections extend not just to federal actions (Congress), but to the states as well.
Free speech is about being able to speak freely without government interference. Those protesters who are boycotting Chick-fil-A because of Cathy and Chick-fil-A’s corporate stance on religion, family, and sexuality are NOT infringing upon Cathy’s free speech rights. By definition, the only body that can do that is the government.
Protesters are merely that – protesters. Both they and Cathy are merely participating in the marketplace of ideas.
Now, the mayor of Boston is another story.
Mayor Thomas Menino sent a letter to Chick-fil-A telling Cathy that the business wasn’t welcome in Boston.
Oh, snap, now we got a problem.
While I love, love, love the fact that Menino is publicly supporting gay rights and calling out Chick-fil-A for their hatefulness, if Menino goes further than “not welcome” and actually takes steps to prevent Chick-fil-A’s business enterprise on the basis of Cathy’s speech and beliefs, well that, my friends, is a free speech violation.
Menino is government. Your freedom of speech is freedom from government interference.
It makes me want to vomit, but the various mayors who have said they’ll try to block the fast food chain’s presence are wrong. Mayors can participate in the marketplace of ideas, but they can’t use the power of the state to silence or impede others solely on the basis of speech and beliefs. Thus, the KKK gets to clean up the highway if they want to. Again, makes me want to vomit, but that’s what speech is all about.
Allowing ugliness keeps us free from governmental and political oppression. Just ask Abbie Hoffman about his shirt sometime… he was busted for wearing a shirt designed to resemble an American flag. Or, you know, ask the Founding Fathers about how important free speech was to organizing the revolution.
But there are limits. Free speech is not Totally Unlimited, Unchecked, Anyone Can Say Anything Speech.
You can’t call fire in a crowded theater.
You can’t incite a riot.
You can’t use fighting words.
In the example of yelling “fire” in a crowded theater, we understand that the government has the power and duty to regulate speech that would reasonably hurt other human beings.
But what about hate speech? Where do we draw the line between a legitimate state interest to prevent violence and protecting someone’s right to voice their opinion?
Hate speech is murky territory. It is the ill-defined space between public safety and unpopular or ugly beliefs. The zone in which legitimate state interests intertwine with individual civil liberties. It is the part of the map in which no one can definitively say how far is too far.
Hate speech is generally protected as a first amendment activity, but not always. Take, for example, Title VII and Title IX. If employers allow hate speech and it creates a hostile environment in the workplace, employers can be sued. But an employee can say those same hateful things outside of work without censure.
So it’s tricky.
But I would argue that Chick-fil-A is engaging in hate speech. And that it creates a hostile environment for its employees by doing so. Unfortunately, the federal government does not recognized the LGBTQ community as protected by civil rights provisions.
There are a number of local jurisdictions who do, and I think the only legitimate way that government can deal with Chick-fil-A’s homophobia is through employment law and hostile environment provisions.
But bottom line: all those protesters? You keep at it. As long as you are a private citizen, Cathy’s first amendment rights won’t be violated in the slightest.
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Cheri L.
August 3, 2012
After having looked at quotes of Mr. Cathy’s comments and reading your assertion that they constitute hate speech, I’m a little confused as to the definition of the latter. To my knowledge, Mr. Cathy didn’t incite violence against or deride the homosexual community. He did state a belief in traditional marriage as created and sanctioned by God, a view clearly stated in the Bible he believes to be the Word of that God. He also took a stance against SSM, but did not advocate, for instance, the bombing of gay weddings.
My understanding of the laws against hate speech is that, to be defined as such, the speech must incite violence against, or direct harm to, the subject of the speech. Is simply saying, “I don’t agree,” with a particular practice and advocating a different course now defined as hate speech? If so I’m pretty sure both political parties are in big trouble. (Well, they are anyway, but that’s another topic for another day.)
Whether we agree with him or not, I don’t think Mr. Cathy’s exercise of his right to freedom of speech constitutes hate speech. To compare him to the KKK is rather like comparing a rigorous home owner’s association to the Nazis of WWII Germany. It denigrates the seriousness of real hate speech while unecessarily inflaming the public discourse.
CrimeCents
August 6, 2012
Hi Cheri L., thanks for writing in thoughtfully. We’re all for respectful discussion around here. Sounds like some clarification is in order. There are no laws against hate speech per se. As I said in the blog post, it’s generally protected as a first amendment activity. The examples you give (inciting violence or direct harm) are not free speech, they are crimes, and they are crimes regardless of motive. So, you can be charged even if you were not engaging in hate/bias when you incited the violence. Thus, use of fighting words statutes, etc. I do think Cathy’s statements are a form of hate speech, but the most insidious kind. That is how the upper crust does it – imagine a “dahling” here or there, but it’s all a tidy bundle of euphemisms. “Traditional marriage” and “family values” imply, without slurs like the f-word, that the LGBTQ is somehow offensive to those with the *correct* set of values. The LGBTQ is therefore less than. Because if you’re not for families, as in ‘family values’, then what are you for? The implications are ugly, as is the funding of anti-gay groups.
I did not compare Cathy to the KKK. You might want to check out the link on that case in the blog post. It’s kind of the “Free Speech 101″ case that most people start with, because it helps to distinguish between what’s constitutionally protected (the highway cleanup case) versus what’s not – burning a cross on someone’s lawn, etc.
I do see Cathy’s anti-gay sentiments, however euphemistically delivered, as hate speech. To me, failing to recognize them as such is a failure to recognize hate and bias of all kinds. But we can agree to respectfully disagree. Thanks for stopping by.
carpebootium
August 14, 2012
I have to jump in here because there is a world of difference between saying you believe in something and saying you hate (overt or implied) someone who doesn’t believe in you. People of the Islamic faith do not believe that Jesus was the son of God. Christians do and it is one of the central precepts of their faith. These are fundamental differences in their belief systems but stating that difference is not hateful. If respectful discussion is something that is valued here, it is important to take the conversation at its word.
The offense here is that Mr. Cathy brought his personal beliefs (which run counter to a social/civil movement in this country) and that of his company into public discourse. But Mr. Cathy is a private citizen and his company is a private company so, as you stated, he is within his rights to do so.
Just as with the politics of the day, it is important to let disagreement be disagreement without making it personal or interpreting it as hateful. The very foundation of this country was to bring together people of different walks of life, not to assimilate them but to benefit from the differing points of view and benefit the collective. The result of this is that social/civil movements take a long time to reach critical mass and even past that point you will have those who disagree.
Stating that you believe in the Biblical definition of marriage is a disagreement with same-sex marriage. Going into a temple and gunning down random Sikhs is hate. The differences are astronomical. The only reason I bring this up is if you value respectful discussion, it is imperative that differences of opinion not be construed into personal, ideological, spiteful attacks. You can’t hear what you won’t listen to.
investigator25
August 3, 2012
# 1 – At issue here is marriage rights. Mr. Cathy would prefer man and woman marry and support a family as has been the custom since God created Adam and Eve.
#2 – To support that preference and publicly proclaim his marriage preference is Mr. Cathy’s free speech.
Mr Cathy did not say he hates anyone, regardless of sexual preference or religious preference; that has been an opinion proclaimed in public communication assigned to Mr Cathy through biased news coverage.
My sexual right is my business and mine alone. I am not subjecting anyone to a public display of those preferences. If the homosexual community would take note – that their sexual preferences are their business and theirs alone there would be no problem. I do not care what they do inside their homes or bedrooms. Just keep it out of public view and most civilized citizens prefer to do.
However, when anyone attempts to force their opinion and preferences upon me – that is a violation of my freedom to privacy and opinion.
Can anyone tell me why it is ok for homosexuals to publicly proclaim their sexual preferences and it is not ok for me to discuss my preference that does not necessarily agree with them?
HUH? Hate speak anyone?
If everyone would just display some common sense and sexual privacy – there would be NO ISSUE.
CrimeCents
August 6, 2012
Hi Investigator 25.
#1: Your #1 I addressed in the post. I support gay rights. The post wasn’t about gay rights, it was about understanding free speech because I’m really tired of comments like your
#2: It is not about free speech. Or, it’s only about free speech to the extent that GOVERNMENT is involved. I can’t help feeling you missed the whole point.
As for the rest of your comments, one useful way to examine arguments for bias is to try to substitute a different demographic group. Let’s try Jewish with what you said…
How does it sound if someone writes: “My RELIGION is my business and mine alone. I am not subjecting anyone to a public display of those preferences. If the JEWISH community would take note – that their RELIGIOUS preferences are their business and theirs alone there would be no problem. I do not care what they do inside their homes or SYNAGOGUES. Just keep it out of public view and most civilized citizens prefer to do. However, when anyone attempts to force their opinion and preferences upon me – that is a violation of my freedom to privacy and opinion. Can anyone tell me why it is ok for JEWS to publicly proclaim their RELIGIOUS preferences and it is not ok for me to discuss my preference that does not necessarily agree with them?”
Does that feel uncomfortable? And if you’re really tired of the public discourse, why not support LGBTQ rights? The sooner they have rights, the sooner the conversation ends… just sayin’.
bitcodavid
August 3, 2012
Yeah, but it’s still pink slime, slathered in sugar, dredged in salt, fried in lard, and served between two obesity-buns. I won’t eat Chick-fil-A even if they become the Logo-TV poster restaurant.
investigator25
August 3, 2012
But it tastes just like chik’in
jessicawritesnow
August 3, 2012
I love love this article. I taught me about the distinctions that exist in the first amendment. As a private citizen who doesn’t feel comfortable within the LGBTQ community, I’m not deluded into feeling pressure, “different”, a better or worse human being, or that this community stains the global human stamp of this generation. Nope. The community teaches about honesty, openness, tolerance, and asks people to gather information from their stories for an understanding and information, This f-ing Miss judgement and deliverance I hope she keeps doing a Kirk Cameron on steroids message about everything and anything. Believe me she will self destruct and the community that negates her will be unified–
CrimeCents
August 6, 2012
Glad you like the post, glad you agree, but please play nicely in the comments field. (That’s why the end of your comment was deleted.)
jessicawritesnow
August 6, 2012
Gosh, sorry, I’m very harsh and forceful with language. It’s hard to hold back because it’s the weaponry of the civilian world. I promise to reel it in, cause I really like the info on your site. Sorry, my bad. Creative Writing major words are my…dream.
jessicawritesnow
August 6, 2012
Gosh, sorry, I’m very harsh and forceful with language. It’s hard to hold back because it’s the weaponry of the civilian world. I promise to reel it in, cause I really like the info on your site. Sorry, my bad. Creative Writing major words are my…dream. My blog jessicawritesnow.wordpress.com provides 81 examples of my beautiful tapestry’s woven with love, fierce and heated passion, and a creative distinction that almost invites a global awareness of foul language day. Caution: use swear words with wit and without happenstance.
Brian Hartz
August 4, 2012
Reblogged this on BriWrites.
CrimeCents
August 6, 2012
Thanks for reblogging.
bastikononion
August 4, 2012
1) Chick-fil-A sounds strange to me, I did not knew them (mostly because I’m not an US citizen) and expected something sexual. (Something really crazy.)
2) I wouldn’t qualify “being opposed to same-sex-marriage” as hate speech.
3) For me it’s OK to discuss if “same-sex-marriage” should be called “marriage”, as long as “same-sex-relationship” would grant them the same rights and no one attacks “same-sex couples” vocally.
3b) For me it’s also OK to discuss if “same-sex-relationship” should grant them the same rights. (For me the answer is yes)
3c) Straight marry in churches and for me it would make no sense for “same-sex-couples” to do so, but when they wish to do so they should be able to do so. Provided that they find a church that does it. I understand the point of the church, and although I’d like they would go over it, it’s their own business, since it’s their believe in god that makes them follow his rules. “Same-sex-couples” can believe in god as well, which is not understood by some people.
4) Donating food and/or money towards organizations that share ones opinion is totally fine unless those organizations promote discriminating actions against “same-sex-couples”.
5) Having the (governmental) power to deny businesses to exist should not be abused.
5b) Where I come from we have at least one political party, which couldn’t be considered pro-multicultural or pro-multiracial and politicians try to forbid this political party. To me this would be the wrong way. You have to deal with them politically not forbid them.
6) Free speech includes the right to talk about ones own (sexual) preferences, when people wish to give up their privacy, while it’s OK on the other hand that people want to conceal it.
(sorry for the “same-sex”, I don’t have better words for it)
CrimeCents
August 6, 2012
Your comments are numbered with subcategories! That’s awesome. Structured thinking is always nice to see in writing. Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to share your comments. One thing I would point out is your 3C – you said it doesn’t make sense to you for same sex couples to wed in churches.
I disagree. There are many people in the LGBTQ community who are deeply religious and view marriage as a religious ceremony. And there are many churches that welcome this community, and are happy to perform such weddings. The only thing that wouldn’t make sense to me would be atheist LGBTQ weddings held in churches!
Vive la difference.
bastikononion
August 8, 2012
I wrote more than I intended. I picked up the numbering from “investigator25″, it’s nothing I do normally. Well it’s nice and it can make replying easier.
To 3C and your comment on it. It’s great that there are churches that welcome this practice. Maybe I’m too far away from a church and I’m not in touch with the LGBTQ community so I did not know enough to make this statement. It was “born” by the idea that there are people that consider gays to be sinners that will be condemned to hell; and if such people won’t accept me I would give a damn on wedding in a church.
Again, I agree with them wedding in a church. I even would wed them in my own church. (Just to clarify; I don’t have one.)
on thehomefrontandbeyond
August 6, 2012
smart post
CrimeCents
August 6, 2012
Thanks!
Anonymous
August 7, 2012
Hi, I’m a (not so) anonymous poster, and I didn’t really understand the pool rules around here. Nor did I respect the fact that CrimeDime isn’t my blog and that I should have saved my rant for my own blog or broadcasting stuff. So my comment got edited to this more polite version. Next time I will engage in civil discussion instead. Peace out!
Christine
August 14, 2012
The owner of Chick-fil-A was asked for his opinion. The company stated that they hire homosexuals and treat homosexual customers with dignity and respect. They simply do not believe in redefining marriage. As someone with a law degree, I disagree with any parallels between this and hate speech. And as a Catholic, I am insulted by your piece. There is no attempt whatsoever on your part to study or articulate theological reasoning regarding marriage, sexuality, or children’s rights. Labeling those who disagree with your own personal ideological view as “haters” is the common rhetorical strategy of same sex marriage activists, and it gets very, very old.
It is absurd for you to claim to engage in respectful dialogue while writing an article in which you state that a religious point of view makes you want to vomit. You are doing the complete opposite of encouraging dialogue. You’re shutting dialogue down by psychologically manipulating anyone with a religious point of view — few people would feel free to voice their opinions if you (wrongly) categorize their point of view as hate speech. You’re typical of many academics — you claim to support free exchange of ideas, but the reality is that you only tolerate those who think just like you. I have grave concerns for the college students who are exposed to this kind of nonsense. How would they feel free to express their views when you have clearly labeled expression of those views as “allowing ugliness”?
The owner of Chick-fil-A had the integrity to voice his opinions and stand behind them publicly, which is more than I can say for anonymous bloggers who do not even reveal their actual identities.